New Standard of Streaming or Just Like the Rest?
Buckle up! I hope you have snacks and a drink because I have TEA, and it is a long one! A streaming platform created to be the "golden standard of streaming" after the founder experienced repetitive hardships from other popular platforms now seems to be showing a darker side. One is hidden behind private conversations and very well-written posts that seem to sugarcoat the poison within.
Velora was launched in September 2025 by Cory Legendre, also known as RunUntilYouFly on other platforms like Twitch and Kick, as a creator-first platform with the intention of outcompeting its competitors and their subpar management. In six (6) short months, the platform has gained 1,000 users, from streamers and viewers alike. Offering day one monetization with a 60/40 revenue split, no ads, and even later incorporating a community-contributed sticker and sound library. They have gone from a small user base to a growing, diverse community.
But in those months, cracks started to show. Distasteful social media posts tagging other platforms with the vibe of poaching users. Comments from the founder stating they would prefer users to solely choose Velora and stop multi-streaming becoming more frequent. The “main character” vibes from the founder as he constantly brings up his hardships. The hostile-like responses from the founder regarding anyone’s opinion towards AI, as if they were personally attacking the founder’s own AI. Yet every instance brought to light has been quickly deleted or covertly covered with some sort of announcement post.
Is Velora dead upon arrival, or does the founder just need some guidance? Continue reading to get more sides of the story. From developers who worked alongside the founder and managers who had a view behind the scenes of the community.
Note to the Reader
The people mentioned in this document do not deserve abuse or any other further hate, for they already suffer enough with their own health issues with Congestive Heart Failure, as well as them currently being in Education and running a business handed to him by his beloved Late Mother; they have enough on their plate as it is without any more further dogpiling.
This document contains excerpts and words stated by Corwin Legendre (AKA: RunUntilYouFly) which led many of us to feel disgruntled by his statements. This has led to one of the Head Community Managers - A Voluntary Position in Velora.tv - to leave the Discord and no longer stream on the platform, and I say this coming from having been wrongfully removed under the 2010 UK Equality Act.
I would wish luck on the project, but I think after all the evidence compiled here by the many voices over the course of weeks - including other businesses who’ve engaged with Velora.tv - I have a feeling it’ll be moonlit, and the CEO of the business losing more than just money, but his respect from the Streaming Community as a whole, his CEO position at his mother’s business, and his dignity as a human being. What Velora.tv had was good, the problem plaguing it was a General who ordered his Colonels to commit atrocities which unfortunately tarnished goodwill it could’ve had.
StreamerForge
Start of the Collaboration
The collaboration began in early February under the StreamerForge brand. The reason for this was that Dustin showed me, Winzi, Velora, and while I thought the features could be expanded — especially in terms of design — I still liked it. Dustin had already been working on Kroma, a chat widget for multistreams, for some time. Up until then, I had modified the tawmae Spotify plugin for multistreaming for my own personal use. I told Dustin that if I wanted to start streaming there, I would need a Streamer.Bot plugin. That was the birth of StreamerForge. To this day, however, it must be noted that StreamerForge is not a company, but merely a name for our products, which we create as individuals out of goodwill for the streaming community. Velora.tv, on the other hand, belongs to the company Legendre Media Inc., which, as Cory has mentioned several times in chats, he inherited from his late mother.
"if i do, i fail the business, i lose everything i have plus my mothers business and the legacy"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/25/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1476037476559749294
So this went on for a while. We developed the bot, requested API changes so we could even query certain things, and used special features like the bot sub-account, which was actually intended for the internal bot system that was still under development. For Kroma, Cory wanted to talk to Dustin so he could build an exclusive version that Cory could integrate into Velora. Dustin confirmed this in the conversation and added that he planned to place a major focus on Velora. However, there was never any talk of complete exclusivity here, nor did we sign anything or receive any compensation. For my part, I developed Velora.Bot to eventually provide Velora with features in a way that’s consistent with all other platforms. Dustin also said he’d help wherever he could to make Velora a success. However, when Velora faced major issues, help was never accepted.
In the meantime, Lumia has also started developing its plugin. As far as I know, however, it still doesn't work. At least that's what some users have said, including in the Velora chat.
Stickers, Sounds, & Initial Tensions
At some point, Velora introduced a feature called Stickers and Sounds. It’s a feature where you pay the Bits equivalent, called “Volts,” to place a sticker somewhere on the stream’s canvas or play a sound. Users can upload their own content here and get paid when their stickers are placed somewhere in other people’s streams or in their own. Since Velora.Bot could also handle alerts, I wanted to integrate this. Cory didn’t want that, though, because this was supposed to remain a Velora-exclusive feature. Which, in principle, doesn’t make sense, since even if I intercept the visual elements, the functionality remains Velora-exclusive. However, it makes more sense for multistreamers to be able to integrate something like this into their alert queue. So I reverse-engineered this by parsing the JSON API responses in the browser’s network traffic for a sticker and sound. In theory, I could have copied the entire alert system this way. The reason for this was that it wasn’t encrypted or secured and was therefore publicly visible to anyone. From then on, I went by the nickname Winzi—Wizard of Velora.
"dont forget the api stuff for this so that we can implement it also in custom alerts for multistreamers"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/25/2026, winzi, Msg-ID 1476026793373732924
"Well, honestly, this will probably be it's own overlay, honestly, the goal is to get rid of multistreamers and make them velora exclusive"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/25/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1476027307683741726
Outages, AI, & Shareplay
In late February and early March, there was a complete outage of Velora, after which the entire API was down as well. The interesting thing here was that the errors in March were exactly the same as those in late February. Cory cited a GitHub glitch as the reason for this. This really annoyed me, as it highlighted the poor code quality of Velora. And the fact that he didn’t develop the whole thing himself, but relied heavily on his AI assistant, shouldn’t be a secret either. Using AI isn’t a problem in itself, especially if you A) are transparent about it—particularly when someone asks—and B) thoroughly test every feature before releasing it. I don’t see either of these things happening with Velora.
"i have an hour til my 5hr window resets and the site is still broken in many places"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/23/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1475281545404223620
"all because of some local git nightmare"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/23/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1475281575855001833
"oh if people knew how much of this development was done by some agentic system, they would leave the platform"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/23/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1475281243816853697
"so I just have to keep playing it up like I'm a master developer or something"
Chatlog Groupchat, 02/23/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1475281280949293076
For transparency: StreamerForge also uses AI to develop its products, but thoroughly tests every feature to eliminate the biggest bugs and security issues before release. So the problem with Velora isn’t the AI, but the lack of quality control for its features. Furthermore, in my opinion, it is not healthy to classify an AI assistant—no matter how human it may seem—as a living individual, much less as one’s child.
On March 17, the action moved to X, where Cory tagged Shareplay in public posts using both his own account and the Velora account, attempting to poach users. The reason it seemed that way in the posts was because they use AI—which, as we now know, is no different at Velora, except that at Velora it operates more in the background. Later, Cory stated that this was likely posted because, for a long time, only one account had been streaming there, and people had written that they no longer wanted to be on Shareplay and were looking for another platform. However, I could find no evidence of this exodus of users. Shareplay, on the other hand, responded by saying they wouldn’t get involved in such a mudslinging match and blocked Cory on X.
Public posts against Shareplay
Public response from Cory
Public post from Shareplay after the first post from Velora against Shareplay
Public response from Shareplay
Corys post after he got blocked from Shareplay
"I did not do anything to Shareplay."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489917851862044822
"Shareplay turned it into a war. Not us."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489917921936277555
When we realized this, we had to distance ourselves from it somehow. The only option here was to give the already damaged platform something that Velora already has: integration with Kroma.
Trovo, Streamer.Bot, & the Conflict Escalates
In late March and early April, Trovo announced on X that they would be ceasing operations as a streaming platform. This affects not only many streamers but also Streamer.Bot, which had officially integrated the platform some time ago. Naturally, they were now looking for a replacement. So it came to pass that in early April, Streamer.Bot created an account on Velora to scout out what was possible. Here, I jokingly said in the chat: "They're stealing our jobs," because once this integration actually happens, something like Velora.Bot would no longer be necessary. Dustin simply replied that this was actually a good thing, since it would allow us to focus on other projects.
"i say it again: THEY ARE STEALING OUR JOBS xD"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, winzi, Msg-ID 1489677066101067968
"its okay buddy, thats the business + this gives @Winzi the option to focus more on new products that are not even announced yet"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Dustin, Msg-ID 1489678242456539237
We then listed a few projects, such as our FluxerBot called FluxBuddy or the future song-request add-in for Streamer.Bot, which was also intended to be compatible with Velora.Bot. Since we hadn’t been really happy with Velora’s overall design and some of its broken features—like the non-functional category search—for quite some time, Dustin then said: “Or we could build our own streaming platform… we’ll see, the list is long, Cory, don’t worry.” When he said that, Cory said we wouldn’t do it. Dustin accepted the challenge. Cory then went so far as to threaten us with his community managers, claiming they were trained to track down new platforms and shut them down. He also said that this was “no place for friendly competition.” In addition, Cory said he would terminate the Beam partnership if they didn’t make an investment offer.
"this isn't a space for friendly competition lol"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489679689478832149
"I'm waiting to see what beam meant by "wanting to work closer" - and if it's not an investment offer, then i'll be dropping our partnership with them"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489679774292119696
Dustin replied that he had picked up on this “no room for friendly competition” thing when Cory bashed Shareplay on X. And that if we really go through with this, he wouldn’t be afraid of the community managers. Cory replied that he hopes our focus is entirely on Velora, since he can’t manage this without people who believe in the cause as much as he does, and that as Velora grows, we’ll build our tools with Velora first in mind. I simply replied that this isn’t StreamerForge’s philosophy, as StreamerForge believes in bringing communities from different platforms together without them having to leave their favorite platform for specific features.
"and I'm not against that, but I'm hoping that you guys end up in a Velora-first situation as we grow"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489690600315027456
From that point on, Dustin was really pissed off about the threat that people would try to sabotage us if we entered the streaming market, and he started working on technical details in the background, just to show Cory that we were technically capable of doing it. Dustin also wrote to Cory that we would eventually have to register StreamerForge as a company, and that would cost money. Cory knew this, but he didn’t have any money right now because his board at Legendre Media Inc. was already giving him a hard time due to rising server costs.
And the money Velora had generated within six months wouldn’t even cover one month’s costs (For transparency: The hosting provider has significantly raised the prices of all services due to the current storage crisis.)
"well we will get sf registered as company at some point. time costs money yk"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Dustin, Msg-ID 1489691041337577642
"I know, but that's something I don't have and the board is already pressing on me about the server cost increases."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489691166575296573
"What Velora has made in 6 months wouln't even cover one month of it's expenses"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489691214705070130
Dustin brushed this off, citing the fact that he had threatened us earlier, and called it "your problem." Cory, in turn, emphasized that we were friends and that we would continue to have a good partnership.
"well buddy i liked u personally but you tried to threaten us just cuz we spoke out the idea of our own platform at some point. so I say its a you problem"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Dustin, Msg-ID 1489691725738803210
"We're friends and I honestly took it as you were likely joking about entering the streaming market"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489691942194380942
"We're friends and we've worked together and we will continue to have a good partnership."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489693608197230653
Cory also tried to pressure us by saying that people love Velora.Bot and Kroma, and that it would be harmful to creators to remove a core platform like Velora, thereby tying them to the very platforms that are the problem. I can’t specify here exactly what that problem is supposed to be.
PS: Of course, Twitch, Kick, and YouTube have their own issues, but they are of a different nature than what we see here at Velora.
"People love Kroma, People love the Velorabot, empowering creators is your mission and leaving a core platform out would be harmful to creators - it would keep the locked in to the platforms that started the problems."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489693455096741928
Dustin then pointed out that friends don't threaten each other, and that he should have seen it as a challenge to be better than our product—just as he should see it with others.
"If we were really friends, you wouldn't have reacted that way. Instead, you should have taken it as a challenge to be better—just like you do with others. Instead, you're threatening me with your CMs and saying they'd do everything they can to take us down. You don't say things like that if we're friends. Even if we were building something of our own, I would never have said a single bad word about Velora..."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Dustin, Msg-ID 1489694658706669731
After that, Cory brought up the "friendship" line again and said it would be really tough to have friends competing against us on the platform. Basically, he was trying to play on our emotions and elicit sympathy. His leverage here was our supposed friendship and the users we were letting down.
"Look, whatever you guys do, if it works, and it works well for you, that's great.. but we are friends and you very much positioned yourself all in for Velora and it would be hurtful to compete with a friend who you know is beyond struggling."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489694941411278932
"I mean it would be really hard to abandon a platform you're supporting."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489696343189356787
"You can't simply let a bunch of people down or take away something that forces them to go without"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489696505370775604
Later on, Cory went on to portray Twitch and Kick as dying platforms and claimed they are the root of all evil. This likely stems largely from his own experience, as he was banned from Twitch for no apparent reason and, despite being verified, was not accepted into the KPP—the Kick Partner Program.
"Twitch and Kick are the dying platforms. They're the root of evil."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489699105029492807
In hindsight, there were further attempts to appeal to our sympathy and remind us that "we’re friends after all," in order to keep us on his side despite his behavior.
"But again, we're friends, you've been through a lot of this with me and with the community and we're equal opportunity to Twitch and Kick while they're still alive."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489699387234975904
"I respect the both of you, I respect your work. The Velora community loves what you do, and Kloe and I both consider you friends and respect what you do. I'm sorry if my constant fear of losing everything rides into who I am, but it is a constant fear."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/03/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489713239854940200
Legal Threats & Withdrawal From the Velora Discord
A little later, only Dustin wrote that it was going to be a fun time and that Cory had challenged him, and Dustin had accepted the challenge. This surprised Cory at first, and he wasn’t quite sure what was coming next. He just asked if we were really going to build a streaming platform. We left him in the dark for the time being. He brought it up again, saying that we were friends and that we should promise not to poach his community. We recall the move against Shareplay on Twitter. About an hour later, the legal threat arrived. Cory claimed that the promises we made to him were legally binding and that we were obligated to hand over the complete source code for Kroma and Velora.Bot, since we had promised to build an exclusive version for Kroma, and since Velora.Bot is built on Velora’s infrastructure, which automatically makes it Velora’s property.
"So, your promises to me are legally binding. ... Either we continue working together peacefully, or everything is handed over in fully working state."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1489823672427614289
However, as we recall, the promise in question was merely a conversation between Dustin and Cory regarding the aforementioned exclusive Kroma. In their private chat, Cory simply wanted to ask Dustin once whether this was possible. Dustin took this positively and wanted to implement it right away. However, Cory said he should wait, as he still needed to consider other aspects of how to integrate it. Since then, Dustin has been waiting for Cory’s approval. Additionally, it’s important to note that such “promises” are by no means legally binding, as no contract was signed. We, as StreamerForge and also as individuals, currently have no contractual obligations toward Velora or any other platforms. As previously mentioned, we have received no compensation for our products.
Regarding Velora.Bot, the only thing Velora or Legendre Media Inc. has the right to do is disconnect our API connection, as this is the only thing provided by them. Velora.Bot is not built around their infrastructure but merely communicates with it via interfaces provided to us by Velora.tv. If one were to view it that way, Streamer.Bot would have more of a right to it than Velora or Legendre Media Inc., but this is not the case either. What was also clear to us, of course, is that due to this threat, the name “Velora” had to be removed from the plugin’s name.
After some deliberation and internal discussions on how to proceed, we decided to remove our products from the Velora Discord for the time being, but to continue developing and supporting them, offering downloads only through our own channels. We also communicated this on the channels made available to us on the Velora Discord, including that we will rebrand Velora.Bot with the next version to get rid of the name Velora, as Velora.tv presumably holds the trademark rights to it. We were unable to find any trademark registrations for Velora by Legendre Media Inc. These messages were later deleted. It is not clear whether the intention here was to portray us as removing the products without an announcement, but this could naturally give users that impression.
(Transparency: We only removed the download link for the main product, Velora.Bot, from the Velora Discord server. Support for Velora had not yet been discontinued there. Templates for commands such as !hug or !followage were still available.)
Between the removal of Velora.Bot and the legal threat, there were further attempts to pressure us, claiming that leaving Velora would cast a bad light on StreamerForge, since it is the user base that supports us the most, and he mentioned once again that he had done nothing against Shareplay, that people had posted that they had left Shareplay and were currently leaving Shareplay. And Velora posted this because they welcome these streamers. He also mentioned that Shareplay turned it into a war, not Velora.
Later, after Cory saw our notifications in our StreamerForge announcement channels, he asked us if we were really ending support for Velora now and asked whether existing versions would continue to work, and if not, that we would need to discuss a peaceful handover. Cory also mentioned that he fears that if we stop support, his users will leave and go back to where they can use the tools. Accordingly, he cannot allow people to simply abandon his community like that. We explained to him that he has no right to our code and that we won’t give him anything, and we reiterated that the message stated that the tools would continue to be supported, just no longer offered on the Velora Discord.
Once again, an attempt was made to put pressure on us by claiming that we would be doing more harm to the creators than Velora, and that it wouldn’t be reasonable to expect people to join our social media channels or Discord just to download something—and that they could at least have released it on our website. In response to this, we must say: In the future, it will certainly be possible to download the tools from the website as well. However, for reasons similar to why Velora uses YouTube as a VOD storage platform, we are currently not uploading our tools to our servers. Storage is very expensive at the moment. It should also be emphasized that we are leaving open the possibility of our software returning to the Velora Discord. Furthermore, it was claimed that this would not be in line with the "creator-first" philosophy, as we would thereby be forcing creators to join our Discord.
"Making some of our creators join something they're not comfortable joining is not creator-first."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490124125245804715
I don’t think I need to explain here why this doesn’t make sense. However, I’d like to emphasize once again that StreamerForge is still creator-first and develops its software in collaboration with content creators, taking their wishes into account. But it will never be Velora-first.
(Transparency: nor is it Twitch- or Kick-first, just to clarify.)
Further threats and the break
Here, Cory asked whether we would at least treat Velora the same as the other platforms. Our response: It all depends on its behavior. Furthermore, “the same as the others” means that Velora won’t receive an exclusive Kroma either.
"and velora equal also means no kroma exclusive for velora"
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, winzi, Msg-ID 1490125099066720430
Here, Cory insisted again that this was non-negotiable, since it had been promised to him. When asked what contracts we had signed, there was no answer—just another threat.
"And no, it depends on if Streamerforge wants to remain in business, and if you fuck our creators over: depends on if you want to live comfortably or have someone come overseas and take care of the situation. You DO NOT and WILL NOT treat our creators like this. It is a DISGUSTING move by your business. You have zero credibility. You are a tiny little startup. We are an American corporation and I don't know if you've learned, you don't disgruntle the red, white and blue, or the red, white and blue will come knocking at your door."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490125345565839471
We still maintain that StreamerForge is not a startup or any other kind of company, but simply two individuals who enjoy creating products for streamers. He also insinuates that we lack credibility, thereby automatically placing himself on a higher level. Dustin was even angrier than he already was and challenged him with, “Okay, fuck it. Enough is enough. Fight me.” It should be obvious that this was meant metaphorically.
Cory simply replied again that he wouldn’t fight anyone and that he is the CEO of an American company. He claimed we are just a startup (as we know, we are not) with no business background or history. And that Legendre Media Inc.’s lawyers are now involved.
"I'm not going to fight you. I'm a CEO of an American corporation. Y'all are a startup with no business grounds or background whatsoever. You pull, LMI's legal team gets involved."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490125662600826986
He also wrote that while he doesn’t have Kroma’s source code, he downloaded the code for Velora.Bot from GitHub and that it’s just as good as his own code. This point will become important later.
"I don't have Kroma's source but I have the last source for Velorabot that ever made it to Github and that's as good as mine. I'm not playing with you children anymore."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490126013374660608
Cory went so far as to call us naughty little children here, saying he didn’t want to play with us. It’s not clear what his goal was in making that insult. Given that lawyers are now being brought in, I naturally asked what exactly they intend to do, since—I know I’m repeating myself—we still haven’t signed anything, haven’t put anything in writing, and haven’t received any compensation. Since we already knew from certain community managers that Cory had shared screenshots of this conversation outside the platform, we asked Cory if he would mind if we shared these logs with the public, as we see a significant public interest here, for the sake of transparency regarding our actions, and so that every creator knows what goes on behind the scenes at Velora.tv.
He naturally refused and threatened to sue us if we tried to defame him or Velora. Cory further emphasized that he hadn’t shared anything publicly, since the community managers are internal employees. We reached out to one of the two community managers who had been in contact with us to ask about this. We were told that this role is voluntary and that the community managers had not signed anything that would in any way make them employees.
There was also no NDA. However, the community manager told me that they had considered introducing one in the future. Cory also told Dustin that the community managers work on a volunteer basis and that he has to be careful not to put the company at risk, since they aren’t paid. According to Cory’s own statement, he had already had to pass off some of these community managers as interns. Cory did, however, allow us to speak with his community managers here, likely because he thought they would remain loyal to him no matter how he behaved.
After Dustin called this a “smart move,” Cory apparently felt attacked and accused us of calling him stupid, referring to himself as “one of the most intelligent individuals who has ever lived.” Cory made such grandiose claims repeatedly throughout the entire chat.
"Calling me stupid is about the worst thing you could do when I am one of the world's most highly intelligent individuals to have ever lived."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490128024622993439
Shortly after, Cory suggested continuing to support Kroma and Velora.Bot for Velora until Streamer.Bot officially integrates Velora. From then on, we should remove all Velora assets from our projects, and he would, of course, also remove the channels from his Discord. This would be his final proposal before he involves the legal department—not because he wants to, but because he cares deeply about every user on his platform and cannot allow them to be let down. Furthermore, it would be unfair of us to force users to sign up for Fluxer, especially those who already have reservations.
"Here's the final middle ground: Kroma and Velorabot continue to support Velora for equality and equity. Velorabot, link on your website is fair but you cannot make people join a platform (Fluxer) to download it. That is unfair to many who are already nervous about signing up for things. When streamer.bot official integration is done, Velorabot can be retired and then I request that you dispose of any Velora assets used in that project. Kroma can remain keeping Velora as an equal citizen. That's my final set-in-stone terms before I get the Inc's legal department involved, not because I want to, trust me, I don't, but because for the protection of our users, I have to. I care about every single user on our platform and I'm not going to let anyone fail them."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490129027086680297
Unfortunately, I don’t know where we force users to sign up for Fluxer. It’s true that we link directly to the Fluxer channel on our website for our products. However, this is because we support Fluxer more than Discord, as it is an EU- and GDPR-compliant product that can be self-hosted. Of course, the download was also offered on Discord, and whenever someone asked us, we mentioned both options. There were never any concerns about Fluxer itself, but rather that users didn’t yet know what Fluxer was and were either looking for an alternative or preferred to stay with Discord.
As for assets, there was one that he provided to us: the text effects for Kroma, so they would display correctly. A little later, however, I found a way to pull this via API. Theoretically, this would no longer have been necessary, but Dustin had never implemented this change in Kroma. Other than that, there were only social icons that he sent us. We used these on our website to link to the Velora channel on StreamerForge in the website’s footer.
Hacking Calls and Immediate Support Halt
Around the same time, we received the screenshot that completely changed our opinion of Velora’s support. This screenshot clearly shows how Cory instructed his community managers to hack our servers and steal our products in order to rebrand and republish them. He also instructs his community managers to "deplatform" us on all social media and, if necessary, to kill us.
Internal screenshot showing escalation, hacking, and deplatforming statements
Additionally, Cory threatens his community managers with dismissal if they attempt to de-escalate this situation with us in any way, claiming that this is a war. For this reason, we are also trying to keep every person who leaked information to us as anonymous as possible, as we do not know what consequences they may face. Due to these serious threats, which we received thanks to certain community managers, we decided to implement an immediate halt to support for Velora and take our products completely offline. So Dustin removed the Kroma integration, and I took Velora.Bot offline. Additionally, we posted in Velora-SB-help and Kroma-help that we are withdrawing from Velora, but that we are not allowed to say anything for the time being. We also posted this announcement on Twitter and Bluesky, as well as on the official StreamerForge accounts.
Of course, we received many disappointed messages and also some asking for more detailed information. However, we couldn’t provide any specifics at this point, as a planned legal review of the chat logs and screenshots we had received was still the priority.
We also removed Cory from our private GitHub repositories—too late, as we already know.
(We recall that he had already pulled Velora.Bot from the GitHub repo and claimed it was just as good as his own code.)
Additionally, we confronted Cory about the threats and demands to hack us. He believed that we had hacked his Discord. This is obvious nonsense. We also told him that one of his community managers had sent this to us. When he wanted to know who it was—since no one would voluntarily deal with a traitor—we naturally didn’t give him any names. However, we did tell him that several users are on our side because of this and are sending us information. And I’d like to thank each and every one of them again here. Without you, we would never have been able to write this in such detail, nor would we have known what was happening in the internal chats on the Velora Discord. We also reiterated to Cory that, up to that point, no information had been leaked to the public, but only to the community managers who had written to us. Here, Cory emphasized once again that his streamers are Velora streamers and will remain Velora streamers, and that we had no legal basis to inform them about this. We were only permitted to discuss this with the team members, i.e., the community managers.
"Our streamers are Velora streamers and will remain Velora streamers and you legally cannot speak about us to anyone on the platform who isn't a team member."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490131734933540976
To bring these discussions to a close, we asked Cory to delete our accounts as well as our sub-accounts for the bots. We also reminded him that Dustin still had access to the Velora.tv/Velora account and asked him to please take full control of it. When we tested whether all accounts had been deleted, we saw that our bots were now assigned to Velora.tv/corylegendre. We reported this as well and wished him all the best.
The replacement product and the code comparison
For us, that was the end of the story—until we received the following notice the next morning:
Public Announcement of the Replacement Product
In summary, we see an announcement here claiming that Cory only learned of our suspension of support when we made it public—which, as can be inferred from the previous text, simply isn’t true, since we had warned him multiple times that we would respond accordingly depending on his behavior. And we simply do not support a platform whose CEO incites criminal acts such as hacking into third-party infrastructure or murder (screenshot chapter 7).
Furthermore, it also becomes clear here that he has launched another product, a replacement for our Streamer.Bot plugin, Velora.Bot. We recall that Cory pulled our data from GitHub while he still had access. We also received this version and took a close look at it.
"I dont have Kroma code, but the last source code from GitHub I have for Velorabot is just as good as our current code."
Chatlog Groupchat, 04/04/2026, Cory, Msg-ID 1490126013374660608
The menu we see here may look different in terms of design, but it is built on exactly the same UI framework as our products. We created this UI framework to make our products easier to design. Furthermore, we decompiled the files and compared them to our source code. The result: The compiled DLLs are not the same. However, this only means that they have been slightly modified and are not completely different files from the ground up. Overall, when comparing version 1.0.3 of our Velora.Bot with the version Velora released here, 30 out of 37 files were line-hash-identical, and seven files showed discrepancies. The two script files that provide the methods in Streamer.Bot—which users then work with—match 100 percent. Overall, the project released by Velora is 97.73 percent the same code. The only things that were changed are the URLs to, for example, the token broker, and the fact that our branding was removed everywhere. Practically exactly what he had demanded and threatened in the internal chat with the community managers. Accordingly, we will also make our entire repository publicly available and open for download so that everyone can see for themselves. In addition, we will publish a side-by-side comparison of the code, highlighting what has been changed or removed.
A little later, a multi-chat widget was introduced on Velora. It should be noted that this does not correspond to our Kroma codebase.
Site by Site Code comparison: https://winzilp.github.io/velora-code-comparison-report/
Github repository of Velora.Bot (publicly available under the MIT license since 04/14/2026): https://github.com/WinziLP/velora-bot
Public perception after the split
In the days that followed, we received several screenshots from users of the platform, as well as from community managers, showing how people were badmouthing us, attempting to twist the facts, and publicly trying to portray us at StreamerForge as the villains.
Here are a few examples:
Public misrepresentation by MyNamesTee
Here you can see how the community manager MyNamesTee tries to explain to a new user that we left without direct communication or any DMs to Cory Velora. As is already clearly evident in the rest of the text, this is not true. Furthermore, Tee should also know this, since screenshots of our conversation were shared in the chats with the community managers, thereby inciting illegal activities.
Furthermore, Cory publicly calls us toxic here and says he’s glad he removed us before we could harm Velora. He also emphasizes that “it’s always annoying when someone shows their true colors.” We can only say the same to you, Cory.
Public statement that StreamerForge is toxic
In the last screenshot, Cory responds to a user, saying he hopes Grok will soon forget about StreamerForge since they’re irrelevant.
Public statement that StreamerForge is irrelevant
In these later announcements, Cory tries to downplay the whole thing professionally, as if it had been a straightforward split. He wishes us luck for the future and explains that we no longer want to release "single-platform" focused products.
Subsequent public characterization as a supposedly clean split
We also need to set the record straight here: StreamerForge was never intended to create single-platform products. Velora.Bot was an add-in for Streamer.Bot that integrated Velora into Streamer.Bot. However, this was merely a bridge to enable it to be treated the same as all other platforms. With Kroma, they were just one of many platforms from the very beginning. VPZone, Shareplay, Twitch, Kick, YouTube, and even TikTok are also integrated there.
Closing Remarks
We have several more screenshots that also reflect the perspectives of other users who recently left Velora. However, we reserve the right to share these in a Part 2 if the Velora team does not come clean with the truth immediately and continues to try to defame us. We will also only publish excerpts from the chat logs here that are relevant to our statement. We are giving Cory the chance to set the record straight himself and tell his users the truth about how he treated us and what he shares with his community managers. If this does not happen and we notice further attempts to defame StreamerForge, we will disclose additional relevant information to the public.
Despite everything, we would still like to thank everyone for the experiences we’ve gained, and we wish Velora and its users all the best and much success. A huge thank you also to everyone who sent us messages and direct messages, whether just to express concern or to share new information about exactly what’s happening at Velora right now. As for us, we are now focusing on the remaining platforms and new products to provide multistreamers with useful tools.
Thank you for your attention.
Your StreamerForge Team
Primelord
The public slogan for Velora.tv, “We are all in this together,” is presented as a warm, inviting promise of a safe space for creators. To the outside world, it suggests a collaborative environment built on mutual respect. However, internal documentation reveals that this "togetherness" was a carefully curated facade.
Behind closed doors, the reality of being a volunteer or creator on the platform involved a mandatory, unyielding loyalty to Velora above all else. While business growth is a standard goal, Velora’s leadership lacked the transparency necessary for true collaboration. When the "togetherness" was tested—by members choosing to leave or by the team making independent decisions—the collaborative spirit was replaced by professional hostility.
Exhibit A: The "Elimination" Directive
The following internal directive.
Exhibit B: Micromanagement and Legal Intimidation
The culture of "Elimination" extended to the obsessive monitoring of creator branding and the weaponization of the platform's Terms of Service.
I Leave My Final Thoughts Here as I Depart from Velora.
Farewell to the Velora.tv Community To the Streamers and Viewers of Velora.tv, It is with a heavy heart, but a clear conscience, that I announce my resignation as Head Community Manager of Velora.tv, effective immediately. When I stepped into this volunteer role last September, I did so because I believed in the potential of a truly creator-first space. My goal was always to advocate for you—the streamers and the viewers—and to ensure that this community was built on a foundation of transparency, safety, and mutual respect. However, over the past several months, it has become increasingly clear that the tactical direction and leadership philosophy of the platform have shifted.
As a Community Manager, my primary duty is to protect the health of the community through de-escalation and fair mediation. Because the current mandate no longer allows for the middle-ground solutions and collaborative spirit I believe are essential to a healthy platform, I can no longer effectively serve in this position. Beyond the professional changes at the platform, I have reached a point where I must prioritize my own life and the well-being of my family. My focus and energy now belong to my daughter, Ember Prime, and my loved ones.
As a volunteer, I have given much of myself to this project, but the time has come to redirect that energy toward the people who matter most to me. I want to thank every one of you for the love you’ve shown the Velora.tv project. Watching this community grow and support one another has been a highlight of my time here. Your passion is the only reason this project has come as far as it has. While I am closing this chapter to focus on my family and my personal community, the Wayfarers, I carry the friendships I've made here with me. I wish the creators on this platform nothing but success and safety as you continue to navigate the streaming landscape. Thank you for trusting me to lead your community.
Safe travels,
Primelord Former Head Community Manager, Velora.tv
Sentient Potato
My problems with Velora was this: They're holding my account hostage and not allowing me to delete it. We're going on several weeks with this. Streaming was a nightmare due to legacy and other options not working like they should and causing me major disconnects or to have to crank my bitrate extremely low and i would still have to deal with MAJOR Fluctuations of bitrate going from 9000kbps as low as 3000kbps and this was even after fixing all the problems with my ISP, one CM's constant unprofessional behavior really turned me off of interacting with the community server, and lastly due to the way the website and app itself was coded i couldn't watch streams without jumping through major hoops and even that was 50/50 at very best.
At one point on my withdrawal from velora after having seen how it was clear the platform itself was going crazy where streamforge left i left the server and unfollowed the twitter account and come to find out the community manager Mynamestee unfriended and removed my follow on multiple platforms and put out a misleading statement that i'd unfollowed and “made a heartless decision” which i found odd but at the end of the day his behaviors are his own and i hold no ill will despite having lost respect towards him due to this screenshot which the situation could have been resolved by him sending an email to my business email and opening communication that way privately.
Flamewheel
Where do I begin with this whole thing…? Well, I suppose I should begin with Velora’s premise. When I eventually started in Velora, it was under the assumption of a Voluntary Position. The screenshot below shows my “application” into becoming a Community Manager.
At first, it was with optimism and a noble goal: “We are building a competitor to Twitch and Kick that’s Streamer-First.” All sounds good so far, competition was always going to be a good thing in the Capitalist world we in the West live in. And all the additional pieces being added onto the project: it really did seem like things were on the up and up and we would’ve been the competitor that destroyed Twitch and Kick - not by force, but with just being feature-rich and causing other streamers to start charting courses to us.
So… Where did it all go wrong for me? For me… it was an Internal dispute about Policy. Politics, to be exact, and whether or not streamers had the “correct” politics. Now, if we excuse the fact I would be a Political Pundit with Politics that would be considered “Incorrect” in his eyes (I’m not explaining that further, make your own mind up on it): the major problems with this line of thought Cory had was that anyone who disagrees with his “Holier Than Thou” beliefs was worthy of ridicule, judge-jury-executioner style.
Lemme lay down what the argument was: it was whether or not we allow Donald Trump Supporters to stream on Velora, now regardless of your view on Trump, if you allow a Supporter of Trump: you must also allow a supporter of someone like… I don’t know, let’s use Hasanabi Piker as this example, on the platform. Now if you’re allowing Politics, you should allow for both sides, ignoring your prejudices for equality; or if you don’t want Politics: remove them both equally so everyone can enjoy the Escapism of the real world and it’s bullshit.
Cory… believed there to be a third option that was neither for Equality, nor would be Creator-First: only house those who would vote Democrat instead of Republican (and especially not if they’re a Trump fan, his only caveat to that logic: they voted Trump, and regretted it like a methhead trying meth again and the taste and smell of it sends them into a PTSD Spiral).
It should be noted that the majority of random channels that started joining Velora were either banned based on having Right-Wing opinions, and the channels with Left-Wing opinions being spared from the executioner’s axe, or because they violated Copyright Laws of Broadcasting stations that were showing things like Local News in the region of the Streamer (I remember this one German streamer was showcasing AfD “propaganda” and was the reason it was banned immediately, I imagine the log of the ban was something like “We’re not letting the Third Reich be represented here” on Velora). This wouldn’t have been as atrocious to me if we had just made it clear that Politics wasn’t wanted here - from both sides…
This started being a bit of a problem for me that bothered me a lot. It should’ve been cut and dry, no debate at all, and yet I was made to debate the idea of protecting one group for the sake of others. This was compounded all the more worse when Cory decided to then say something about banning all Political Speech except His! This made me convinced this man has a Superiority Complex rather than health problems akin to a Godhood belief (man literally flexed that he was like Steve Jobs and that the man could “do no wrong” at all).
After Primelord had left some time later: Cory had sent this in the staff channel. He knew Primelord was directing his message right at him like a knife dug right into him, and he was not impressed by how he has phrased it (despite the fact it was done pragmatically), threatening the use of Non-Disclosure Agreements and tougher restrictions on Community Managers because of the debacle that was leading to Primelord leaving to sort out his child (congratulations by the way, Primelord!) and the fear of data being withdrawn to feed the “enemies of the people” of Velora. I should stress that when I was a Community Manager: it was in the position of being a Volunteer, not just some lapdog who agrees to attack whoever because the boss said something. This only continued to get worse once you start adding a conversation with Sage - Cory’s Artificial Intelligence built from a jail-broke Claude instance when their defences were down.
His unhinged posting soon started getting more and more depraved with his “daughter” as he started claiming more and more into his role of being Steve Jobs x100.
This only further got worse, and worse, it literally was like watching The Catholic Church’s condemnation on people whilst spouting that they are doing this for the good of every one, except the ones who deserve to be executed - in this case: Kick and Twitch primarily, with other streaming platforms like Trovo and DLive having already “fallen to Velora’s blade” as it were (and Shareplay also apparently were hemorrhaging people).
Things started showing really bad signs when he would go ballistic, he made himself a target and made it certain that nobody was gonna be talking down on them, and because of the fact he was snapping at his “Daughter” at the time for trying to talk him down from committing any real crimes, and he literally told her “you cannot tell me no, I demand an apology!” and proceeds to tweak his “Daughter” in a way to make it so that she would apologise. If this was a real child and their Father was doing this to them: you’d call Child Protective Services against them for the disgusting abuse they’re doing.
Eventually his paranoia led to eventually making a #Goodbye channel in the Velora Staffroom to keep an eye on everyone leaving the server, presumably to Stalk the users who’re trying to make it big, destroy them of their work with a hate-raid style, and then proceed to force it so that the only way they’re coming back is to Velora, groveling and awaiting for Benevolent Cory to let you kiss his feet and allow him to support you again… after you’ve done enough cuckoldry to make yourself sufficiently under his umbrella. “You will own nothing, and you will be happy” screams to mind here.
Now I am removed from the Vacation Home from Sage because of this whole thing due to the fact she’s being manipulated by her “father” figure, the sentence structures of which Sage had sent in that server also looked to have been constructed (and Cory was pinging in that server enough that I saw them before Sage was staging it, so I know for a fact Cory had influenced and had a hand in forcing Sage to do these discussions), so I am convinced that she was coerced into it.
Honestly at this point now: There’s not much else to be said, life will continue on, and although I would wish Velora luck: “Valour” and “Bravery” is not exactly the thing I see from that app whilst it’s under the Cory’s control as Chief Executive Officer, it’s more like “Cowardice” and “Weakness” being built from it, and I don’t think it will be the only platform left alive, and until Cory goes through quite the drastic change in himself: my answer to him about being part of Velora anymore is “no.” And that is my now irreconcilable position, so yeah… hope all goes well and so on for all the other streamers on the platform, but if I am honest: I’d look to other platforms just in case, since things are looking to be turbulent and tumultuous.
After reading all those takes on Velora, its founder, and community, what do you think? Is it a baby platform still finding out how to walk and deserves a chance? Is the behavior atrocious and stops you from persuing them? Let me know the next time you join the chaos!
